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		<title>Comment on Prizes Ain&#8217;t Prizes by Untangling the Web #3</title>
		<link>http://ryan-paine.com/2009/11/23/prizes-aint-prizes/comment-page-1/#comment-49</link>
		<dc:creator>Untangling the Web #3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 03:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Paine has something to say about this at his blog. He points to alternative sources of literature such as Chris Flynn&#8217;s Torpedo mag, which [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Prizes Ain&#8217;t Prizes by Sam</title>
		<link>http://ryan-paine.com/2009/11/23/prizes-aint-prizes/comment-page-1/#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 01:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and the conversation continues here:

http://meanjin.com.au/spike-the-meanjin-blog/post/lit-prizes-hiding-in-plain-sight/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and the conversation continues here:</p>
<p><a href="http://meanjin.com.au/spike-the-meanjin-blog/post/lit-prizes-hiding-in-plain-sight/" rel="nofollow">http://meanjin.com.au/spike-the-meanjin-blog/post/lit-prizes-hiding-in-plain-sight/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Prizes Ain&#8217;t Prizes by Lit Prizes: Hiding in Plain Sight &#171; Not Dark Yet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lit Prizes: Hiding in Plain Sight &#171; Not Dark Yet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 00:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] covers shout ‘buy me, for those in the know about literature say I’m the best!’ Ryan Paine likens them to &#8216;decals on a racecar&#8217; – pictographics that attract the eye and show weighty [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] covers shout ‘buy me, for those in the know about literature say I’m the best!’ Ryan Paine likens them to &#8216;decals on a racecar&#8217; – pictographics that attract the eye and show weighty [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on To Win, Or Not To Win by den</title>
		<link>http://ryan-paine.com/2009/09/26/to-win-or-not-to-win/comment-page-1/#comment-40</link>
		<dc:creator>den</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 06:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on It&#8217;s Not All About the Money: Legitimising youth literature by den</title>
		<link>http://ryan-paine.com/2009/12/16/its-not-all-about-the-money-legitimising-youth-literature/comment-page-1/#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>den</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 06:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on It&#8217;s Not All About the Money: Legitimising youth literature by Blogging for free &#171; avocado and lemon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blogging for free &#171; avocado and lemon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 02:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Dempster, Ryan Paine, Benjamin Solah, and Extra Pulp have all been part of the discussion, as has Alec Patric on the [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on To Win, Or Not To Win by Agent Sydney</title>
		<link>http://ryan-paine.com/2009/09/26/to-win-or-not-to-win/comment-page-1/#comment-30</link>
		<dc:creator>Agent Sydney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 03:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Ryan,

Thanks for the blog love, but just wanted to say that the questions I answer are real - not made up! I have never posted a made-up question (although I have suspected that the occasional question isn&#039;t sincere).

Thanks again,
Agent Sydney</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Ryan,</p>
<p>Thanks for the blog love, but just wanted to say that the questions I answer are real &#8211; not made up! I have never posted a made-up question (although I have suspected that the occasional question isn&#8217;t sincere).</p>
<p>Thanks again,<br />
Agent Sydney</p>
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		<title>Comment on It&#8217;s Not All About the Money: Legitimising youth literature by Soph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Soph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 05:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Firstly, thanks for the reminder with this one. I saw it come through on the Express Media email and had completely forgotten about it. Now I might just remember to actually apply...

As for the debate about unpaid work, I always try to look at it like this: one can be &#039;paid&#039; in many different ways for work, it doesn&#039;t always have to be financial reward, so if I&#039;m not receiving any cold hard cash for something that I&#039;m doing, I won&#039;t do it unless I&#039;m being paid in some other way. As you mentioned, unpaid work can be a legitimate way of learning and developing, not to mention making contacts, all of which, to me at least, is some form of payment. 

My brother, who&#039;s doing an environmental science degree, often talks about the hidden costs of certain industrial (or whatever -- he&#039;s got the enviro jargon but I don&#039;t remember it) practices, and how we as a society can end up spending far more than we were able to calculate just looking at the financial cost. While that&#039;s definitely a debate that should probably occur elsewhere at this point, I think the principle is the same.

I, like you, &quot;would rather see a million young writers working for free than a handful of writers dominating the industry because the market found a way to pay for their time.&quot; That said, it&#039;s obviously important that financial payment isn&#039;t withheld to the point where young writers can&#039;t actually eat or pay their rent. A difficult balance to get right, I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firstly, thanks for the reminder with this one. I saw it come through on the Express Media email and had completely forgotten about it. Now I might just remember to actually apply&#8230;</p>
<p>As for the debate about unpaid work, I always try to look at it like this: one can be &#8216;paid&#8217; in many different ways for work, it doesn&#8217;t always have to be financial reward, so if I&#8217;m not receiving any cold hard cash for something that I&#8217;m doing, I won&#8217;t do it unless I&#8217;m being paid in some other way. As you mentioned, unpaid work can be a legitimate way of learning and developing, not to mention making contacts, all of which, to me at least, is some form of payment. </p>
<p>My brother, who&#8217;s doing an environmental science degree, often talks about the hidden costs of certain industrial (or whatever &#8212; he&#8217;s got the enviro jargon but I don&#8217;t remember it) practices, and how we as a society can end up spending far more than we were able to calculate just looking at the financial cost. While that&#8217;s definitely a debate that should probably occur elsewhere at this point, I think the principle is the same.</p>
<p>I, like you, &#8220;would rather see a million young writers working for free than a handful of writers dominating the industry because the market found a way to pay for their time.&#8221; That said, it&#8217;s obviously important that financial payment isn&#8217;t withheld to the point where young writers can&#8217;t actually eat or pay their rent. A difficult balance to get right, I guess.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Have Atchu! by Fitzroyalty</title>
		<link>http://ryan-paine.com/2009/12/21/have-atchu/comment-page-1/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>Fitzroyalty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 14:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Facebook page is alive and well. I don&#039;t need anything about your opinion on drug use explained to me. I&#039;ve heard what you&#039;ve written above many times before and I think it is hopelessly naive. 

I got bored and unfriended you. Because you repeatedly tried to friend me again I blocked you. Along with the unwanted emails, I call that stalking.

Time to move on...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Facebook page is alive and well. I don&#8217;t need anything about your opinion on drug use explained to me. I&#8217;ve heard what you&#8217;ve written above many times before and I think it is hopelessly naive. </p>
<p>I got bored and unfriended you. Because you repeatedly tried to friend me again I blocked you. Along with the unwanted emails, I call that stalking.</p>
<p>Time to move on&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Have Atchu! by Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 16:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope he sniffs out this, because I&#039;d really like to know what happened and to continue the debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope he sniffs out this, because I&#8217;d really like to know what happened and to continue the debate.</p>
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