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		<title>Boating! I Mean, Agenting!</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 05:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In my last post about Nic Low’s manuscript I described ‘Tailings’ as ‘a beautiful duck, wearing a tiara … bobbing up and down on [the sea of mediocrity] … that results from the seemingly indiscriminate publication of some 12 000+ books per year in Australia’.
I now realise that’s a bit harsh: Australia has a proud ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my last <a title="'Tailings', by Nic Low" href="http://ryan-paine.com/2010/06/02/tailings-by-nic-low/" target="_blank">post</a> about Nic Low’s manuscript I described ‘Tailings’ as ‘a beautiful duck, wearing a tiara … bobbing up and down on [the sea of mediocrity] … that results from the seemingly indiscriminate publication of some 12 000+ books per year in Australia’.</p>
<p style="text-indent: 2em;">I now realise that’s a bit harsh: Australia has a proud history of publishing amazing literature, and my comment was, perhaps, inadvertently disparaging of Australia’s avid-reader population. It was a holier-than-thou thing to say, the implication being that general readers are less discerning than me, which may or may not be true, but a book editor crapping on about his discerning palate is kind of like a mechanic being righteous about the fact he knows how to tune a car better than his customers &#8211; this fact is self-evident, otherwise people would tune their own damn cars.</p>
<p style="text-indent: 2em;">Anyway.</p>
<p style="text-indent: 2em;">All I was trying to say is that I am excited about having the ability to get amazing manuscripts to publishers on behalf of authors. This is what I want to be doing for my day job. To prolapse the metaphor further: I want to paddle around in a leaky boat, scooping up princess ducks and bringing them to shore, handing them over to publishers and saying, ‘Feed them well, they will nourish many.’</p>
<p style="text-indent: 2em;">This felt like a pipe dream until I read Nic’s manuscript. It felt like a pipe dream because I knew that I was missing an important element of the equation that equals successful agenting: quality manuscripts.</p>
<p style="text-indent: 2em;">Quality manuscripts + diligent, active authors + publishing contacts + editorial savvy + youthful naivety + insanity + the empirically unfounded conviction that communication through literature will make the world a better place = Paine Management, my latent literary agency.</p>
<p style="text-indent: 2em;">I have all of these now, so it’s only a matter of time, patience and dedication – the three core things that got me as far as working as a book editor by 22, something that I had never imagined possible when I was smoking bongs in the back shed and dropping out of uni and scribbling all over those beautiful Peter Carey paperback reprints that UQP released.</p>
<p style="text-indent: 2em;">So, yeah, the name of my imaginary literary agency is Paine Management. Get it? I will take the pain out of getting your manuscript published, and the pain out of finding a manuscript to publish. I’m allowed to make bad jokes about my name. You are too. (In fact, <a href="http://samtwyfordmoore.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">Sam Twyford-Moore</a> already did it, in a letter to <em>Voiceworks</em> while I was there.)</p>
<p style="text-indent: 2em;">I want to bundle together a portfolio of the best unpublished manuscripts of young, emerging Australian writers, fold it under my arm and take it, in my leaky boat, to New York City.</p>
<p style="text-indent: 2em;">I’m thinking of further honing the subject and theme of this blog to cover this journey as an emerging agent – to cover things like trying to develop an author-agent contract when I know almost nothing about contracts. (I’ve taken on contracts administration at work, but I still feel as though I’m learning a second language.)</p>
<p style="text-indent: 2em;">So if you’re into that sort of thing, come along. Meanwhile, I have a question for you. It’s pretty broad, but here goes: <strong>what are your experiences of trying to find a literary agent in Australia?</strong></p>
<p style="text-indent: 2em;">If you don’t have any experience with this, but know someone who does, please forward a link to this post. I’d like to start a dialogue about it, so I can start thinking about how to achieve this ridiculously ambitious dream of facilitating the best emerging Australian writing onto the world stage.</p>
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		<title>&#8216;Tailings&#8217;, by Nic Low</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 03:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Something else I&#8217;ve been doing lately, while not being a high-flying literary judge, is reading Nic Low&#8217;s novel manuscript, &#8216;Tailings&#8217;. Because I&#8217;m a youth-literature crusader and everything. Nic is not exactly &#8216;a youth&#8217;, but whatever.
I&#8217;m familiar with some of Nic&#8217;s other arts work,  so I was delighted when he asked me to read and ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something else I&#8217;ve been doing lately, <a href="http://ryan-paine.com/2010/05/23/hearsay-literary-annual/" target="_blank">while not being a high-flying literary judge</a>, is reading <a href="http://www.dislocated.org/" target="_blank">Nic Low</a>&#8217;s novel manuscript, &#8216;Tailings&#8217;. Because I&#8217;m a youth-literature crusader and everything. Nic is not exactly &#8216;a youth&#8217;, but whatever.</p>
<p style="text-indent: 2em;">I&#8217;m familiar with some of Nic&#8217;s other arts work,  so I was delighted when he asked me to read and edit his manuscript. I&#8217;ve been helping him to prepare it for submission to the Vogel, despite my reservations about awards, which I mentioned, and which I discussed <a href="http://ryan-paine.com/2009/11/23/prizes-aint-prizes/" target="_blank">here</a>. It&#8217;s a deadline, at least &#8211; one that&#8217;s been extended!</p>
<h3>The Manuscript</h3>
<p>Nic’s manuscript is one of the most accomplished, challenging and thought-provoking manuscripts I have read in a very long time. It&#8217;s about: Tailings, a half-caste Chinese girl in colonial Victoria during the Gold Rush, who is looking for her mother’s bones while her Irish father digs and drinks himself into suppressing the loss of his wife; and Volker, a 1930s anatomist and eugenicist enamoured of The Third Reich’s racial purity program, who is implicated in the surgically executed live dissection of a young Chinese man. (There is lots of death in this manuscript – I would go as far as to call it a &#8216;literary thriller&#8217;.)</p>
<p style="text-indent: 2em;">Chinese, colonial and German themes all wrap around each other in the most intricate way, entwined with a minimalism so accomplished that I remain gobsmacked that it is the first novel manuscript of a 30-year-old writer.</p>
<p style="text-indent: 2em;">Books it reminds me of: <em>Illywhacker</em> and <em>True History of the Kelly Gang</em> by Peter Carey, <em>Original Face</em> by Nicholas Jose and <em>Many Years a Thief </em>by David Hutchison.</p>
<p style="text-indent: 2em;">NB: Nic Low is neither Peter Carey nor Nicholas Jose, nor David Hutchison; Nic Low is Nic Low, a 30-year-old writer / festival director / public installation artist. (He is also a self-taught web designer and developer – in fact, in exchange for my work on his manuscript, he’s gonna trick this blog out with bouncing hydraulic shockers.)</p>
<p style="text-indent: 2em;">He&#8217;s at the beginning of his career as a novelist and he has produced a first manuscript that punches in the same division as those novels above.</p>
<p style="text-indent: 2em;">I’m not bullshitting.</p>
<h3>No Bullshit</h3>
<p>If you are familiar with any of my published criticism, or have talked with me for longer than two minutes about books, you will understand that this sort of praise does not come easy to me. Working as a book editor and critic has rendered me more discerning than I would care to be: I don’t enjoy books as much as I used to, because most of the books I read could have been better than they are.</p>
<p style="text-indent: 2em;">This could be considered a bad thing: you could wax lyrical about how the dissection and criticism of literature renders it lifeless and uninspiring.</p>
<p style="text-indent: 2em;">Or it could be considered a good thing: instead of meandering through the sea of mediocrity that results from the seemingly indiscriminate publication of some 12 000+ books per year in Australia (vaguely enjoying most things but never really being inspired to write, think, learn, explore), every now and then I stumble across a manuscript like this that blows my fucking brain, bobbing up and down on that sea like a diamond wearing a life vest &#8230; or something less garish. A beautiful duck, wearing a tiara … perhaps.</p>
<p style="text-indent: 2em;">&#8216;Tailings&#8217; is one to look out for, I reckon.</p>
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		<title>Figuring Things Out: Getting help from those who already know</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 01:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I emailed a couple of Melbourne agencies this week, chasing work experience. I got two hits back, one from Curtis Brown telling me they don&#8217;t take work-experience kids. I&#8217;ve canvassed this way before, when I was getting into production in Adelaide, and the pattern was much the same.
I expected one response to be straight and ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I emailed a couple of Melbourne agencies this week, chasing work experience. I got two hits back, one from <a href="http://www.curtisbrown.com.au/home.asp" target="_blank">Curtis Brown</a> telling me they don&#8217;t take work-experience kids. I&#8217;ve canvassed this way before, when I was getting into production in Adelaide, and the pattern was much the same.</p>
<p style="text-indent:2em;">I expected one response to be straight and to the point, perhaps pointing out an error<sup>1</sup>, one to be in-depth and thoughtful response<sup>2</sup>, and then silence<sup>3</sup>.</p>
<p style="text-indent:2em;">I heard back at length from <a href="http://www.jeanbagent.com/" target="_blank">Jean Briggs</a>, who threw me a welcome spanner to get me thinking. She advised against literary agency &#8211; for young and emerging Australian writers in particular &#8211; because it is simply unsustainable, and suggested I consider other ways to promote Australian writing &#8211; other forms of agency. Publishers go by an unspoken previous-book-contract requirement, and I&#8217;d be collecting approximately 15% of royalties, which are between 7 and 10%, on sales of maybe 2000 on average<sup>4</sup>.</p>
<p style="text-indent:2em;">She suggested I would be better off providing other services to develop writers, and then pass them on to agents.</p>
<p style="text-indent:2em;">Another reason she suggested it would be prohibitively difficult to set up such a literary agency<sup>5</sup> is that I&#8217;ll need to prove to writers that I have publishing contacts and demonstrated previous contracts signed. <a href="http://hackpacker.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">George Dunford</a> has pointed this out to me many times before.</p>
<p style="text-indent:2em;">I&#8217;m less concerned about this, as working on <em>Voiceworks</em> brought me into contact with plenty of writers with manuscripts ready to be shopped around &#8211; many of them sympathetic to the difficulties of forging these relationships, so willing to take on an ally of any sort of limited experience.</p>
<p style="text-indent:2em;">I do lack publisher relationships though. Jean echoed my concern that this business of moving into agency with my experience is going to be riddled with catch-22 problems that I&#8217;ll need to solve: agents won&#8217;t take on authors without existing book deals, and publishers won&#8217;t consider manuscripts for book deals without trusted agency representation; authors won&#8217;t consider agents without contacts and contracts, and agents won&#8217;t consider authors without contacts and contracts.</p>
<p style="text-indent:2em;">For now all I can do is go with the advice I got from Zoe Dattner at <a href="http://spunc.com.au/" target="_blank">SPUNC</a>: to get a cache of writers together before fronting up to publishers.</p>
<p style="text-indent:2em;">Still, when I think of the combination of those figures and the catch-22s, my mind boggles and I wonder if this whole idea isn&#8217;t going to wind up a pipe dream.</p>
<p style="text-indent:2em;">But I&#8217;ve been reading the blog of a young entrepreneur from Boston who made <a href="http://jasonevanish.com/2009/11/17/lessons-learned-under-promise-over-deliver/" target="_blank">a salient point</a> that buoyed me: <span>&#8216;When you’re searching for ideas for a startup, remember to look for things you <strong>love </strong>and <strong>problems that relate</strong> to them. Solve those problems.&#8217;</span></p>
<p style="text-indent:2em;">I will try to solve these chicken/egg problems that I was fortunately reminded of early in this endeavour, and I will stray as far as I need to from my original idea of &#8216;literary agency&#8217; to achieve my goals to develop, promote and advocate for emerging Australian literature. Jean has offered to speak with me about alternative ways to achieve these goals &#8211; for a nominal fee, she tactfully added (a lesson in sustainability through diplomacy that I have gladly taken away also).</p>
<p style="text-indent:2em;">The beauty of this for me right now is that this doesn&#8217;t need to be the spanner that I could have taken it as. Jean has kindly and reasonably advised me against a particular type of agency I have been considering: selling manuscripts. My definition of agency is broad enough to encompass anything that constitutes me being involved with the development, promotion and advocacy of young, emerging Australian writers.</p>
<p style="text-indent:2em;">Another concept of agency came to mind recently, but I need to delve into it further before reporting here. For now I have a question to pose: to what extent does the small-press sector suffer from prohibitively expensive sales data, collected and distributed to member organisations by <a href="http://www.nielsenbookscan.com.au/controller.php?page=108" target="_blank">Nielsen Bookscan</a>?</p>
<p>UPDATE: My response expectations have been exceeded today, with the rest of the agencies getting back to me, politely advising that they don&#8217;t take work-experience kids. </p>
-----<ol class="footnotes"><li id="footnote_0_416" class="footnote">which happened</li><li id="footnote_1_416" class="footnote">which happened</li><li id="footnote_2_416" class="footnote">which also happened</li><li id="footnote_3_416" class="footnote">the first figure is Jean&#8217;s, the last two are my partially informed speculations</li><li id="footnote_4_416" class="footnote"> the young, emerging and Australian qualifications are important </li></ol>]]></content:encoded>
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