Comments on: Have Atchu! http://ryan-paine.com/2009/12/21/have-atchu/ Flipping the bird at answers Thu, 03 May 2012 05:40:37 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Ryan http://ryan-paine.com/2009/12/21/have-atchu/comment-page-1/#comment-237 Ryan Mon, 10 May 2010 22:44:45 +0000 http://ryan-paine.com/?p=619#comment-237 I'm glad you picked this debate up, because I look at that comment now and realise it's quite ambiguous. This is well-considered criticism, which I appreciate. I guess I meant that consuming them is a mistake, but not an ethical mistake, but that deliberately dealing dubious drugs is certainly an ethical mistake. You're right that buying things from companies whose practices are morally reprehensible renders you complicit in those practices, but this is different from buying drugs from someone you trust. Perhaps being involved with drugs at all does contribute to the general culture of dubious dealing, but I'm not sure that cautious, individual, recreational drug use is to blame for the collective culture of reckless, habitual drug use that causes so much pain and damage to people and society. Perhaps that's what Brian was on about, but we'll probably never know, because he seems to have glazed over in the face of judicious criticism, which is a shame. I’m glad you picked this debate up, because I look at that comment now and realise it’s quite ambiguous. This is well-considered criticism, which I appreciate.

I guess I meant that consuming them is a mistake, but not an ethical mistake, but that deliberately dealing dubious drugs is certainly an ethical mistake.

You’re right that buying things from companies whose practices are morally reprehensible renders you complicit in those practices, but this is different from buying drugs from someone you trust.

Perhaps being involved with drugs at all does contribute to the general culture of dubious dealing, but I’m not sure that cautious, individual, recreational drug use is to blame for the collective culture of reckless, habitual drug use that causes so much pain and damage to people and society.

Perhaps that’s what Brian was on about, but we’ll probably never know, because he seems to have glazed over in the face of judicious criticism, which is a shame.

]]> By: Esther http://ryan-paine.com/2009/12/21/have-atchu/comment-page-1/#comment-225 Esther Mon, 10 May 2010 16:22:47 +0000 http://ryan-paine.com/?p=619#comment-225 Hey :-) I'm interested to know more about your comments on ..."the morality of dealing, something I feel entirely differently about: dealing dubious drugs is morally reprehensible; consuming them is not..." I can't help but think its the 'morally reprehensible' drug dealers that rely on people buying and consuming their drugs. I believe McDonalds are morally reprehensible so I don't consume their products, otherwise I would be supporting their conduct and in effect saying its ok. It may be more acceptable to take drugs rather than deal drugs, but doesnt one feed off the other? Just my thoughts and no criticism intended at all :-) Hey :-) I’m interested to know more about your comments on …”the morality of dealing, something I feel entirely differently about: dealing dubious drugs is morally reprehensible; consuming them is not…”

I can’t help but think its the ‘morally reprehensible’ drug dealers that rely on people buying and consuming their drugs. I believe McDonalds are morally reprehensible so I don’t consume their products, otherwise I would be supporting their conduct and in effect saying its ok. It may be more acceptable to take drugs rather than deal drugs, but doesnt one feed off the other?

Just my thoughts and no criticism intended at all :-)

]]> By: Fitzroyalty http://ryan-paine.com/2009/12/21/have-atchu/comment-page-1/#comment-15 Fitzroyalty Fri, 25 Dec 2009 14:55:40 +0000 http://ryan-paine.com/?p=619#comment-15 My Facebook page is alive and well. I don't need anything about your opinion on drug use explained to me. I've heard what you've written above many times before and I think it is hopelessly naive. I got bored and unfriended you. Because you repeatedly tried to friend me again I blocked you. Along with the unwanted emails, I call that stalking. Time to move on... My Facebook page is alive and well. I don’t need anything about your opinion on drug use explained to me. I’ve heard what you’ve written above many times before and I think it is hopelessly naive.

I got bored and unfriended you. Because you repeatedly tried to friend me again I blocked you. Along with the unwanted emails, I call that stalking.

Time to move on…

]]> By: Ryan http://ryan-paine.com/2009/12/21/have-atchu/comment-page-1/#comment-12 Ryan Mon, 21 Dec 2009 16:01:49 +0000 http://ryan-paine.com/?p=619#comment-12 I hope he sniffs out this, because I'd really like to know what happened and to continue the debate. I hope he sniffs out this, because I’d really like to know what happened and to continue the debate.

]]> By: Sam http://ryan-paine.com/2009/12/21/have-atchu/comment-page-1/#comment-11 Sam Mon, 21 Dec 2009 14:10:42 +0000 http://ryan-paine.com/?p=619#comment-11 Not Brian Ward again. That guy is the biggest pest i have ever encountered surfing the world wide web. Actually, I am hesitant to type his name... that guy loves any type of promotion, be it bad or very bad (the two types he generally receives), and he'll sniff out any mention of him or his site. Not Brian Ward again. That guy is the biggest pest i have ever encountered surfing the world wide web. Actually, I am hesitant to type his name… that guy loves any type of promotion, be it bad or very bad (the two types he generally receives), and he’ll sniff out any mention of him or his site.

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